Thanks Mrs flipper. Indeed a tough one "what kind of people the cult has made her",
that's the key to rekindle the relationship....
the wife told me it was more like 20-22 years since i seen or talked to her.but since that visit we.
we have not spoke to one another, not a word.
my family members (not jw) ask me have i called.
Thanks Mrs flipper. Indeed a tough one "what kind of people the cult has made her",
that's the key to rekindle the relationship....
the wife told me it was more like 20-22 years since i seen or talked to her.but since that visit we.
we have not spoke to one another, not a word.
my family members (not jw) ask me have i called.
The wife told me it was more like 20-22 years since I seen or talked to her.But since that visit we
we have not spoke to one another, not a word. My family members (not JW) ask me have I called
her, the door is open.
I have reservation folks. JW's can be so fickle minded at times.
First of all she told me my JW brother Elder told her she needs to see me, not her decision.
I would hate to call and she told me, dad I only came by because my new husband and your brother encouraged
me to do so.
The most frighten part about all this when she walked in I thought she was my ex-wife, same fake smile,
same speech, body movements it was weird. I know it's silly but my ex was a evil lady.
The main reason I haven't call, if she say something stupid (I only came by because of the pressure),
it will set off my anxiety problems. Over the years I have learned to control my PTSD and don't
want that to start up again. I will give her another month and I will call and if she get weird on me,
OH LORD I will go off..
So what do you think friends????
you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?
what do you think would have happened to you?
no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.
The year 1974 my friend, fellow elder DF. He was one of the good elders, very kind.
I ask him one day, why? He told me Crisis of Conscience, have you heard of it.
Three years later I was out. Didn't find out about this place until the 90's and the rest is history and
so is JW.org.
just a quick question.
who actually writes the awake!
and the watchtower publications ?
A 9th grader....
so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.
there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.
it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.
Magwitch: It's so funny when you walk up to A JW and ask them, how are you and
watch them run. My sister- in-law ran off and left her items at the checking stand (Walmart). My wife
ask what was her problem, she looked like a crazy lady.
so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.
there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.
it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.
opposite: That's comical "shunning and I like it". Maybe we are looking at shunning in
the wrong way. Can you imagine asking the elders to shun you. You folks who are sitting on
the fence and dread the day when you may be shun, take the power
away from the elders. I can see a WT article, we have reports of JW's asking to be shunned so what
do we do now. Lets step up to the plate folks, shun me I don't give a damn.
That's the only power they have on most, but if you know it's not truth it's just a matter of time.
so just the other day i happened to look out my window to see the cobe and the elder who studied with me on the doors.
it got me thinking.. i remember one day, during my study that he said he loved me.
although he meant this as a "brother" it actually sent me into, what i can only describe as shock and alarm!
It's strange, you learn true love when you leave the the WT.
they'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.. so, how do the governing body get away with it?.
Around 400 B.C Greek physician Hippocrates the first to treat mental illness about the same time
the God stop speaking with humans. In the OT God spoke to hundreds, in the books
of the prophets it's every where, "and the word of the Lord came to me". So it's very strange
after treating people for mental illness (400 B.C), the numbers dropped in regards to people speaking with GOD.
This guy decided to go ice fishing so he cut a hole in the ice, he heard this loud voice "there is
NO fish under the ice". He stopped and looked around and thought "God is speaking to me".
So he moved to another spot and drilled another hole and the voice loud and clear, "there is no
fish under the ice". He stood up and lowered his head and ask, God is that you?
The voice came back," no this is the manager for this Ice skating facility.
i thought, ok the case in australia would open the eyes of the world about this dangerous cult.. well that passed without a ripple.
we talk about the un and the wt link, none jw's don't.
understand the significance.
Wow! I guess I underestimated the Army of ex-JW's.
We must give credit to our undercover workers, our spies our intel (you who are still
stuck in), your intel has made it possible for us to know more about the JW religion
than the average JW.
Reading "berrygerry and Brokeback WT" comments , it brought to mind when British cryptologists broke the
secret code used by the German army to direct ground- to- air operations on the Eastern front
the Allies knew before hand their tactics, WW2.
I can see now we are gaining ground and it is soooo sweet.....
Thanks again you undercover workers....
this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".
seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.
I often think of the young man in my Congregation (in the 70's), his Father a elder and his
brother. All knew he was gay but he wasn't treated any different than the others in
the congregation. This was a small congregation and all were very close, but I wonder if
he was in a much larger congregation in the big city and if his father and his brother weren't elders.
He played the piano in our hall for the Kingdom songs and he was good.
The last I heard he was DF and never came back after his mom and dad passed. A very nice young man.
My best friend was gay in school, didn't realize it until about the 11'th grade, so I distant myself from
him. Years later I saw him and I was a JW, he told me kids thought he was gay but I'am not (he was very religious,
raised a 7 Day Adventist). My class reunion a few months ago he brought up the subject once more and
I told him, I'am not a JW or Christian anymore and my views have changed....